C'mon, don't say that. Anybody would rather have, you know, the guy that knew them already.

[this is almost painfully awkward, but on the other hand he can't blame ren for wanting a different version of himself. that's natural, right? it's why there's this sad feeling permeating the conversation suddenly, right?]

I'm trying but I know I'm not-- [not the father he wants or needs, or maybe not a person worth wanting at all, at the moment. but he'll not let that much slip.] --I don't know. Sorry I brought it up.

[there's real regret there, too, for dragging ren down when he hadn't meant to. it feels like he isn't doing to great at the whole fatherhood thing, on top of the feeling that he messed something up the first time around, the time he hasn't experienced yet.]